In this episode, Deborah and Katie opened their conversation with laughter about sunburns, porches, and how sometimes joy sneaks in through the ordinary. In this lighthearted dialogue, they offer something deeper than just smiles—they share an invitation. One that reminds us that peace and joy aren’t things we stumble into; they’re the fruit of living in proximity to God.
Deborah had been wrestling with a prophetic phrase: “location, location, location.” At first, she thought it meant a move, a change of zip code, maybe even a shift in her career. But what she uncovered was more profound. The “location” wasn’t external—it was about posture. Inner proximity. Her sense of joy and peace didn’t come from what was happening around her—it came from where she was rooted within. In moments of chaos, in the midst of pressure or change, she realized she had a choice: stay close or spiral.
Katie and Deborah shared everyday examples that made this principle come alive. Like the choice to pause on a porch in the rain. Or to turn off the phone for a few hours. Or to whisper a prayer like: “I choose not to be pulled in every direction.” That small pause, that intentional redirect, was more than a spiritual exercise. It was a declaration of peace.
Joy Doesn’t Just Happen—It’s Grown in Proximity
Deborah described a simple reset after a stressful season—no grand retreat, no spiritual mountain climb—just a day of pacing, worship music, quiet in proximity with God. She didn’t plan a breakthrough. She simply made space. And in that space, peace returned. Her heart realigned. And joy? It bubbled back up. Sometimes, the most profound spiritual encounters aren’t thunderclaps—they’re quiet shifts. They were reminders: presence is relational. And joy often comes not because everything is “figured out,” but because we choose to stay near what (and Who) truly matters.
This isn’t about effort or performance. It’s about availability and proximity to God. About remembering that joy isn’t seasonal, and peace doesn’t depend on silence around you. When you choose proximity—through worship, gratitude, conversation, stillness—you don’t just survive the chaos. You transform in it.
So here’s the invitation: Let peace be your default posture. Let joy rise naturally when you’re anchored in the One who never shifts. You don’t need a perfect day or a pristine environment. You just need to lean in, stay close, and let His nearness color everything you touch.
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